tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post3316569339139127961..comments2024-03-19T03:18:54.509-06:00Comments on Hot Chicks Dig Smart Men: A Matter of FaithJaniecehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06223994862015217811noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-17751671162184072632007-12-10T15:49:00.000-07:002007-12-10T15:49:00.000-07:00Jeri, I agree. I'm a huge fan of the Constitution...Jeri, I agree. I'm a huge fan of the Constitution (yeah, I know - call me old-fashioned), and you certainly don't see me vetting all the candidates to see if they believe in the tenants of Buddhism. <BR/><BR/>For me, religion and politics don't mix. I'm such a radical.Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-31373879787970127272007-12-10T15:26:00.000-07:002007-12-10T15:26:00.000-07:00You know, I've been thinking on this subject a lot...You know, I've been thinking on this subject a lot, in relation to our current political climate.<BR/><BR/>Our constitution reads: <I>...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.</I><BR/><BR/>And yet, members of the latter group you identified would have that be so. In fact, they do not seem to be proponents of the rule of law or majority vote, but rather the dictatorial application of their own version of capital-T Truth to the citizenry at large.<BR/><BR/>It is a little scary. I prefer my freedom of thought to religious absolutes.Jerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02473415569376925543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-35656284343034510372007-12-07T11:55:00.000-07:002007-12-07T11:55:00.000-07:00Didn't JFK face the same kind of criticism WRT the...Didn't JFK face the same kind of criticism WRT the Pope?<BR/><BR/>I think the truth of the matter depends on whether Mitt is part of Camp 1 or Camp 2. Since I can't vote in the Republican primary, I don't know much about him. Even if he wins the nomination, though, it's very unlikely I would vote for someone so conservative.Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-83152059351721284332007-12-07T10:57:00.000-07:002007-12-07T10:57:00.000-07:00Mitt Romney's ... uh... whatever THAT was to reass...Mitt Romney's ... uh... whatever THAT was to reassure the American Public that the Elders in the Mormon church won't be directing his efforts in the White House.<BR/>Discuss.The Mechanicky Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301818656158916179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-3513837728428424122007-12-06T23:17:00.000-07:002007-12-06T23:17:00.000-07:00You don't give it, you don't get it. At least not ...<EM>You don't give it, you don't get it. At least not from me.</EM><BR/><BR/>Me neither.Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-54554187236697098632007-12-06T18:30:00.000-07:002007-12-06T18:30:00.000-07:00I doubt many, "Christians" would really like Jesus...<I>I doubt many, "Christians" would really like Jesus the man. I'm just sayin.</I> Ha! Something I've suspected for a very long time, Shawn.<BR/><BR/>I don't understand religion, and don't pretend to. I grew up in the Protestant Church, surrounded by a very Catholic family (Oh yeah, that was fun). I remember even as a little kid in sunday school thinking "I don't get this, I just don't believe it." When I was old enough I walked away and haven't been back. I have no problem respecting other's beliefs, but I expect the same respect for my beliefs in return - but far too often I meet the 2nd type of Christian, and after a certain point I've had enough. Then I say something and get the 'you don't respect my beliefs!' bit. Respect is earned, and it's a two way street. You don't give it, you don't get it. At least not from me.Jim Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11259550121437562338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-90838158250726876112007-12-06T16:06:00.000-07:002007-12-06T16:06:00.000-07:00MWT, you make a good point. I don't think our sci...MWT, you make a good point. I don't think our science is currently sophisticated enough to address spiritual issues. Personally, I can't wait until it is!Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-10317790348555382642007-12-06T16:02:00.000-07:002007-12-06T16:02:00.000-07:00I think a lot of the second-camp Christians misint...I think a lot of the second-camp Christians misinterpret "spread the word" to mean "shove it down everyone else's throats until they capitulate." Fortunately, I know enough first-camp Christians who understand that it works a lot better the way Jesus did it - tell people who want to hear about it, to know it isn't all Christians.<BR/><BR/>As for me, my take is that science is great for trying to understand things in the physical world. However, there is more than just the physical world. While we could conceivably apply science to the other parts of reality, first we must figure out how to actually measure even the most basic things about them, such as psychic energy; until we can do that, parapsychology etc. isn't going anywhere.MWThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446603415730525882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-35164961410853840922007-12-06T13:23:00.000-07:002007-12-06T13:23:00.000-07:00Shawn, thanks for your comments. I had assumed, b...Shawn, thanks for your comments. I had assumed, based on your comments elsewhere that you fell into the first camp. <BR/><BR/>I think you've put your finger in the sore when you say you're unwilling to stop learning, and you include your faith in that desire to feed your mind. I don't think that makes you a wishy-washy Christian. From my point of view, that makes you "open-minded," and that, more than any other attribute, separates the first camp from the second. <BR/><BR/>I can't really take someone's claim to be open-minded very seriously when what they <EM>really</EM> mean is "I'm open-minded as long as you agree with me." For me, that's the tip of the logical fallacy iceberg, and a big warning sign that I may want to (insert Monty Python voice here) "Run Away, Run Away!"<BR/><BR/>I'm a Buddhist (although I'm not a very good one), and for Buddhists, the existence of God is an open question. I like the idea of having the divine remain unknown. However, that doesn't mean that if evidence appears that answers the question that I'll ignore it as a matter of principle. Being open-minded also means being open to the possibility that you may be <EM>wrong.</EM> And I'm okay with that, too.Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-1122075919913069522007-12-06T12:42:00.000-07:002007-12-06T12:42:00.000-07:00I find myself squarely (for the most part) in the ...I find myself squarely (for the most part) in the first camp. I'll even add the caveat that while I do believe, by faith, those things regarding religion that I do -- I also know that the world was once flat, and Santa used to come down my chimney. That may sound like I'm discounting my own faith and beliefs, but I'd argue that I'm so <B>unwilling</B> to stop learning as much as I can about as much as I can -- that excluding my faith from that desire to learn would be silly. Maybe that does make me a wishy-washy Christian. So be it.<BR/><BR/>The thing I've never understood about "my way or the highway" type religious folks, is that what's the point of a person claiming faith if it was forced on them? Is <I>that</I> the type of believer I want to be lumped in with? Uh, no.<BR/><BR/>As an insider, I'll assure you that the intelligence level of the individual has a lot to do with the insecurities that spurn the, "My truth is your truth, now drink this Kool-Aid" type mentality. That's not to say I think my way isn't Truth, but I can't make it yours.<BR/><BR/>Since my comment is already longer than your post, I'll add that Jesus himself only spoke faith-wise with those that wanted to hear, AND he told the religious idjits of the day where to stick it. So to speak. I doubt many, "Christians" would really like Jesus the man. I'm just sayin.Shawn Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15186686711412505957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-13195889389573577512007-12-06T11:53:00.000-07:002007-12-06T11:53:00.000-07:00Hear hear!Hear hear!The Mechanicky Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301818656158916179noreply@blogger.com