tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post3337581021343513311..comments2024-03-19T03:18:54.509-06:00Comments on Hot Chicks Dig Smart Men: An Open Letter to the Coward Cory Gardner, Part 4Janiecehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06223994862015217811noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-23832170835811228712017-06-29T16:54:24.848-06:002017-06-29T16:54:24.848-06:00Zana,
While I don't doubt that the transcrip...Zana, <br /><br />While I don't doubt that the transcript you've provided is genuine, or that Edgar Kaiser was instrumental in the health care for profit mess, the fact remains that his Foundation and its news arm are, in fact, unbiased sources of health news information. <br /><br />Their journalistic integrity is not diminished because the person who endowed the Foundation was a jerk during the Nixon Administration. <br /><br />That's like saying the Special Olympics is suspect because Joe Kennedy earned some money from bootlegging. Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06223994862015217811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-40541259126476929362017-06-29T16:29:56.445-06:002017-06-29T16:29:56.445-06:00There is a small problem using Kaiser as an exampl...There is a small problem using Kaiser as an example. Edgar Kaiser was instrumental in getting insurance companies leverage in people getting medical care but not being able to influence the market prices of insurance or medical care. Kaiser was sitting ready 45 years ago. <br />Transcript of John Ehrlicman and Nixon.<br />John D. Ehrlichman: “On the … on the health business …”<br /><br />President Nixon: “Yeah.”<br /><br />Ehrlichman: “… we have now narrowed down the vice president’s problems on this thing to one issue and that is whether we should include these health maintenance organizations like Edgar Kaiser’s Permanente thing. The vice president just cannot see it. We tried 15 ways from Friday to explain it to him and then help him to understand it. He finally says, ‘Well, I don’t think they’ll work, but if the President thinks it’s a good idea, I’ll support him a hundred percent.’”<br /><br />President Nixon: “Well, what’s … what’s the judgment?”<br /><br />Ehrlichman: “Well, everybody else’s judgment very strongly is that we go with it.”<br /><br />President Nixon: “All right.”<br /><br />Ehrlichman: “And, uh, uh, he’s the one holdout that we have in the whole office.”<br /><br />President Nixon: “Say that I … I … I’d tell him I have doubts about it, but I think that it’s, uh, now let me ask you, now you give me your judgment. You know I’m not too keen on any of these damn medical programs.”<br /><br />Ehrlichman: “This, uh, let me, let me tell you how I am …”<br /><br />President Nixon: [Unclear.]<br /><br />Ehrlichman: “This … this is a …”<br /><br />President Nixon: “I don’t [unclear] …”<br /><br />Ehrlichman: “… private enterprise one.”<br /><br />President Nixon: “Well, that appeals to me.”<br /><br />Ehrlichman: “Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can … the reason he can do it … I had Edgar Kaiser come in … talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because …”<br /><br />President Nixon: [Unclear.]<br /><br />Ehrlichman: “… the less care they give them, the more money they make.”<br /><br />President Nixon: “Fine.” [Unclear.]<br /><br />Ehrlichman: [Unclear] “… and the incentives run the right way.”<br /><br />President Nixon: “Not bad.”<br /><br />Zana Darrow ( don't have any of those account below)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com