tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post3797476147880679449..comments2024-03-19T03:18:54.509-06:00Comments on Hot Chicks Dig Smart Men: Evangelism - How I Hate ItJaniecehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06223994862015217811noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-73960206261988587822008-02-14T11:37:00.000-07:002008-02-14T11:37:00.000-07:00It's the best description of Southern Baptists I h...It's the best description of Southern Baptists I have ever seen in print.John the Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03467337009577733553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-47110121941656854552008-02-14T11:22:00.000-07:002008-02-14T11:22:00.000-07:00Man, that passage is getting around...Man, that passage is getting around...MWThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446603415730525882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-83192918655791574032008-02-14T06:59:00.000-07:002008-02-14T06:59:00.000-07:00I left this passage in the comments on MWT's blog ...I left this passage in the comments on MWT's blog on a similar post. I thought Janiece woudl appreciate it. Besides, we Baptists have to laugh at ourselves, too. (Right Shawn?). The passage is from the book "I Am One of You Forever".<BR/><BR/>It’s set in the rural South around 1942. This passage takes place in Mr. Campbell’s store. Mr. Campbell suffers from a constant stream of condemnation from the Southern Baptists because he sells whisky in his store.<BR/><BR/><I>They weren’t about to hang back. If it wasn’t a scrawny jackleg preacher leaning on the greasy chopblock to sermonalize the hapless pudgy man, then it was some long-jawed deacon. If it wasn’t a deacon then it was a fierce-talking sister of the church, her gray hair pinned back, gray light glinting on her rimless spectacles. Not even the children gave him peace. Their parents had taught them to say, after paying for their Kool-Aid or peppermints, “Thank you kindly, Mr. Bound-for-Hell.”<BR/><BR/>He had a sense of irony and told my father that he’d come goddam near changing the name of his establishment to the Bound for Hell Grocery & Dry Goods and only backed off when he found out what it would cost to have his sign repainted.<BR/><BR/>And then Johnson Gibbs lost that baseball game Mr. Campbell got up against the True Light Rainbow Baptist Church. “That was a trial” he said. “There wasn’t one car on the road didn’t stop here for somebody to run in and tell me how I backed the wrong team because I ain’t sitting on the righthand side of Jesus.”<BR/><BR/>“I’d be more inclined to fault Johnson’s pitching” my father said.<BR/><BR/>“Suppose I’d been sitting on the sunny side of the Lord and we won that game. Where would that put them?” Mr Campbell said.<BR/><BR/>“Might have started a theological ruckus.”<BR/><BR/>“They can’t stand much more ruckus,” he said “There where the road starts up Turkey Cove is your Rainbow Baptist Church, and it’s a nice white wood church. You go on up the cove a piece and there’s a little old concrete block house which is your New Rainbow Baptist Church. A big chunk of them busted away in an argument over predestination. Another two miles is the True Light Rainbow Baptist Church, which starts off with a few concrete blocks and finishes up tar paper siding.”<BR/><BR/>“And if we’d won that baseball game?”<BR/><BR/>“They’d of had them another fight. You’d go up on the mountain and find a pup tent by the road. The One True Light Rainbow Reformed Holiness Baptist Church of the Curveball Jesus.”<BR/><BR/>“Too bad we didn’t win,” my father said. “I’d be curious to read the articles of faith of that one.”</I>John the Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03467337009577733553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-976181962901687592008-02-13T18:38:00.000-07:002008-02-13T18:38:00.000-07:00Any time I hear someone, church or private person,...Any time I hear someone, church or private person, talking about "the lost" in relation to those who don't subscribe to their particular brand of religion, I am so out of there!<BR/><BR/>I actually managed to slog through the first of the "Left Behind" books - cause, hey, I like post-apocalyptic SF. Mistake! It was an evangelical screed, not a story... character and plot were nearly nonexistent.Jerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02473415569376925543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-68683648774897988172008-02-13T18:30:00.000-07:002008-02-13T18:30:00.000-07:00An old friend from my collage days used to handle ...An old friend from my collage days used to handle the "door to door" religious types by jumping out the door; get in their face by grabbing them by the shirt collar and demanding that they support mental health...<BR/><BR/>worked every time... :-)mom in northernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04120181704524007556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-70625725229626521252008-02-13T16:33:00.000-07:002008-02-13T16:33:00.000-07:00Oh.I watched a documentary on gay choirs or someth...Oh.<BR/><BR/>I watched a documentary on gay choirs or something, and a transgendered person said something I've never forgotton.<BR/><BR/>"Never let a church come between you and God."<BR/><BR/>Amen.Cindi in COhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00857773418981487019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-73173493834933019932008-02-13T16:23:00.000-07:002008-02-13T16:23:00.000-07:00Vince, I can't take credit for the phrase - it cam...Vince, I can't take credit for the phrase - it came from <A HREF="http://www.sweetpotatoqueens.com/" REL="nofollow">The Sweet Potato Queens</A>.<BR/><BR/>But I like it, too. <BR/><BR/>Cindi, I was actually thinking of some relatives a bit closer to home...Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-76019874052972617892008-02-13T16:10:00.000-07:002008-02-13T16:10:00.000-07:00By the way Janiece, I love your phrase "Freeze-Dri...By the way Janiece, I love your phrase "Freeze-Dried Whack-a-Loon"!vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16955307244053931069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-54038880844459677902008-02-13T16:08:00.000-07:002008-02-13T16:08:00.000-07:00It's one thing to have someone ask you if you'd li...It's one thing to have someone ask you if you'd like to hear about something, and when told no, they respectfully withdraw. It's another to have someone keep coming back when you've made it clear you're not interested, like has happened with John.<BR/><BR/>Janiece, it's sad that you "have a few relatives who are waiting for the day when we will burn, burn, BURN for our lack of faith." And with this they expect you to give serious consideration to their religious point of view? I also agree that prostelyzing at work, <I>especially</I> by someone in a position of authority to someone under them, is harassment, and should be treated as such.<BR/><BR/>Among my friends my faith is no secret. But my friends run the gamut from atheist to agnostic to various flavors of Christianity to Buddhist. I have friendly acquaintances that are gay. I've had conversations with most of them about religion, some of them pretty wild. But they have been "conversations" - dialogs that all members participated in because they wanted to.<BR/><BR/>When asked, I have no problem explaining what I believe and why. But there is a reason it's called faith.vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16955307244053931069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-22988264056643379122008-02-13T15:52:00.000-07:002008-02-13T15:52:00.000-07:00J., you are assuming that said relatives will even...J., you are assuming that said relatives will even be informed of our passing.<BR/><BR/>Because if anything happens to you, (knock wood) I don't intend to call them. I mean, it's not like they would actually CARE anyway.<BR/><BR/>I see your self-righteous assholes, and raise you some sanctimonious shit-heads.Cindi in COhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00857773418981487019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-50741386632066928452008-02-13T14:51:00.000-07:002008-02-13T14:51:00.000-07:00Jeri, unfortunately, we can't always pick our rela...Jeri, unfortunately, we can't always pick our relatives. My Hot Sister Cindi and I have a few relatives who are waiting for the day when we will <EM>burn, <STRONG>burn, BURN</EM></STRONG> for our lack of faith. Faith being defined as what <EM>they</EM> believe, of course. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure they'll be filled with glee when the day comes, disguised by much shaking of the heads and "tsk" noises. <BR/><BR/>Self-righteous assholes.Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-37945962014659207362008-02-13T14:46:00.000-07:002008-02-13T14:46:00.000-07:00Amen again.My inlaws drive me crazy. My MIL told ...Amen again.<BR/><BR/>My inlaws drive me crazy. My MIL told me a couple of months ago she didn't think she was a successful parent because her son doesn't attend church. (Martyr much?)<BR/><BR/>She also said that she'd just as soon her kids not go to church if they're not going to go to a fundamental, biblical one. (She'd like to be able to dictate our vote, too.)<BR/><BR/>So, I bite my tongue a *whole lot* when we're around them because I don't think I could stop myself when I got started.<BR/><BR/>And my beliefs are rather pantheist/social justice oriented - UU or UCC are a good fit, if I wanted to go to church.Jerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02473415569376925543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-6356687257126857202008-02-13T13:22:00.000-07:002008-02-13T13:22:00.000-07:00"John, may I suggest a stained wife-beater in lieu..."John, may I suggest a stained wife-beater in lieu of the flannel shirt? "<BR/><BR/>Don't own one, but I do own flannel.<BR/><BR/>I only score 40% on Jeff Foxworthy's "Check Your Neck" test. :-(John the Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03467337009577733553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-67391557691544415582008-02-13T13:21:00.000-07:002008-02-13T13:21:00.000-07:00Shawn, you are indeed atypical when it comes to ev...Shawn, you are indeed atypical when it comes to evangelicals. While I have no doubt you'd be delighted to share your experience with faith <EM>if asked,</EM> I sincerely appreciate the fact that you behave with respect towards those who don't share your beliefs. <BR/><BR/>I like that about you. <BR/><BR/>And you're right about your dorky peeps not being taken seriously by most folks. I can assure you, if I ever had a sincere interest in exploring Christian faith, I would call you <EM>first</EM>, and ignore the Outreach folks. Because if I sincerely want to learn about faith, then I want to converse with someone who lives by it, not with a self-righteous prig.<BR/><BR/>::dismounts soap box::Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-60305593728261559682008-02-13T13:06:00.000-07:002008-02-13T13:06:00.000-07:00Believe it or not, I identify with the evangellicy...Believe it or not, I identify with the evangellicy right on most things. Heck, I'm a leader in a <I>Baptist</I> church. For me, however, not only does mainstream "evangelism" get me mad, it <I>embarrasses</I> me too. My peeps tend to be dorks. Irritating dorks at that. Irritating dorks that won't be listened to or taken seriously by anyone. Ugh.<BR/><BR/>Looking back in history, the big JC tended to put the smack down rather harshly on the religious folks. Bible time conservatives? Pharisees. Ouch.<BR/><BR/>You'll largely not find me preachin' the word on my blog, or in public much for that matter. It's just not how I roll. Which would actually make me largely not accepted in the evangelical community. But heck, they're seldom any fun anyway. ;)Shawn Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15186686711412505957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-34671675930620093102008-02-13T13:02:00.000-07:002008-02-13T13:02:00.000-07:00TMG, is there anything worse that someone prostely...TMG, is there anything worse that someone prostelyzng at work? Especially someone who has management responsibilities? It's like sexual harrassment, only worse. Religious harrassment!<BR/><BR/>John, may I suggest a stained wife-beater in lieu of the flannel shirt? <BR/><BR/>Hehe.Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-34679932281126879452008-02-13T12:46:00.000-07:002008-02-13T12:46:00.000-07:00There is a Jehovah's Witness group that keeps ring...There is a Jehovah's Witness group that keeps ringing our doorbell when I'm at work. They somehow saw the red decorations we have on our door and came knocking with Chinese language materials in hand. (We live far back frmo a pretty rural road). That creeped my wife the hell out. She also says the man (who stays in the car while the wife and daughters prosetylize) is like something out of "Deliverance". They come 2 or 3 times in a week, then disapper for a few months.<BR/><BR/>The next time they begin a call cycle, I'm going to work from home for a while. I'm going to black out a front tooth, put on a flannel shirt, raggedy jeans, and my Deere cap, (maybe with a wad of chaw if I can stand it)and I'm going to answer the door using my best Southern accent, with my personal life insurance policy in hand. The insurance coverage is courtesy of the Mossberg Insurance Agency, Policy # 500.John the Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03467337009577733553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-48943723974912926022008-02-13T12:35:00.000-07:002008-02-13T12:35:00.000-07:00I did have an occassion to end a conversation quic...I did have an occassion to end a conversation quickly. Whilst discussing work practices, a sub mentioned how he is Chrsitain and wanted to convert all of his welders. I just looked at him, said that he needed to not do that near me <I>as I am Buddhist.</I> <BR/>Forgive me universe, but it was the best I could come up with at the last moment. Then he went away.<BR/>Imagine that.The Mechanicky Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301818656158916179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-38127540307619652522008-02-13T11:57:00.000-07:002008-02-13T11:57:00.000-07:00Nathan, I really like that strategy. Giving them ...Nathan, I really like that strategy. Giving them the old Smackdown without getting ugly. <BR/><BR/>I seem to recall a video of an evangelical atheist who went a-knockin' on doors...in Salt Lake City. I can't find it now, but I found it <EM>hilarious.</EM>Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-43988789171958161152008-02-13T11:45:00.000-07:002008-02-13T11:45:00.000-07:00My current tactic (which I enjoy immensely), is to...My current tactic (which I enjoy immensely), is to let them babble for a moment. Then I hold up my hands, palms out until they quiet down. I let the silence go on for an uncomfortable moment.<BR/><BR/>Then I say, "I was raised in an observant Jewish home and I firmly believe that all of <EM>your</EM> beliefs are dead wrong...but I was polite enough not to ring your doorbell to tell you."Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648438549121320566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-87716270800080933742008-02-13T09:33:00.000-07:002008-02-13T09:33:00.000-07:00TMG, that's how I roll, too. Because I'm not Chri...TMG, that's how <EM>I</EM> roll, too. <BR/><BR/>Because I'm <EM>not</EM> Christian, you know.Janiecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190655869710465713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-39539681722352548702008-02-13T08:57:00.000-07:002008-02-13T08:57:00.000-07:00We're concerned about your immortal soul becaue we...We're concerned about your immortal soul <I>becaue we're Christian, you know!!</I><BR/>Gag.<BR/>Followed closely by projectiles aimed at the offenders head.<BR/>And heaps o' scorn.<BR/>That's just how I roll.The Mechanicky Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301818656158916179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112925820320944611.post-5511795261662284342008-02-13T08:37:00.000-07:002008-02-13T08:37:00.000-07:00Amen sister.Amen sister.Cindi in COhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00857773418981487019noreply@blogger.com